Searching for Atheists? Check the Vegans!

A very prominent vegan activist took an informal poll on Facebook, asking her followers to comment "God" or "No God."  Most people put an explanation with their comment, so we could learn more of their reasoning.  The results were quite surprising to me: the overwhelming majority of the responders were atheist!  I cannot remember how many people responded, but it was a sizeable number of people. 

A very rough guess at the statistics would be that 80% of the people were atheist, 15% were spiritual or agnostic, and 5% were Christian or another religion.  I thought the spiritual number would be the highest, followed by Christians since they are the majority in society, so this was a real revelation.


What could these results show?  I am not sure, but I will guess. 

1.  The vegans may have become atheist because of the unfairness of animal cruelty.  They could have looked at the concept of a loving god who fixes wrongs, and they could see that help never comes for the animals.

2.  Vegans look at the unfairness of life itself; 

3.  Vegans may have been atheist in the first place and are just more likely to become vegan because they take action in this world, and are simply good people. 

4.  Religious people are taken in by all the excuses in the Bible to eat meat - God says people started eating meat after "the fall"; God loved the smell of burning animal flesh; God said animals are here for our use; God says we have dominion over the animals.  5. God had a thing for bloody sacrifices.   (Vegetarianism was rather popular in the first century AD, but all those religious groups were wiped out by the Christians.) 

Again, I do not know the reason for so many atheists in the vegan ranks, but it sure surprised me.  What a welcome surprise!

The Holy Books Cause all the Hatred and Violence, but No One Will Even Admit Hateful Words Exist in their Books

Seven preachers celebrated the Orlando shooting! 
 
The God of the Bible is their source.
God burns down a whole city (women and children included) simply because they were supposedly homosexual. (Genesis 19:23-25)
God orders the death of witches, sorceresses and anyone who practices magic. (This verse was justification for the Inquisition.) (Exodus 22:18)

God commands that homosexuals be killed for their acts. (Leviticus 20:13)

When are people going to admit this hateful garbage is in their holy books?

I posted this and a couple of other statuses about how the Abrahamic holy books are the source of hatred and violence and causes most of the problems in our world.  I had about 30 hateful and violent Bible verses from just the first five books in the Bible as proof.  Only one person (an atheist) put a "like" on it.  No one commented, and my husband argued, saying:  "I never saw any of that in the Bible."  Well, he never read the whole Bible! 

Here I was just floored at the violence and felt like I had a revelation that the source of these attacks on gays comes straight from the churches, and all I got was a Jewish person commenting who was totally offended that I lumped his Abrahamic holy book in with the other two.  I pointed out all the hateful passages in the Torah and of course, he said that they all believe that their religion changes with the times, so they are not hateful.  I showed him where in more conservative sects of the Jewish faith, many men beat their wives; I showed him how animal abuse is rampant and the Kosher means of killing animals is unjustified (the animals are not "clean" and are straight from the factory farms) and they go through immense pain due to religion; and I showed him that there were a couple of Jewish terrorists, although certainly less.  I showed him that women are held back in the Jewish religion, and given a specific role.  I also pointed out that God telling each religion to "be fruitful and multiply" makes no sense.  Wouldn't God only tell that to the people he favored and none of the other religions since he wants his chosen people to take over the world?  Yet each religion thinks they are the ones who will be rewarded, and they need to further increase the population with their uneducated children.  (I didn't phrase it quite that bluntly.)  All he did was get angry.

No one admits the hateful and violent passages exist in their holy books and that they hold back society.

Source of Terrorism and Hatred

We need to handle our violence problems, and I am not an expert, but I would tackle it from several angles. In this post, I will just write about one problem we must address - the source of the violence. Where is the source of hatred toward gays coming from? It is obvious to me: the Abrahamic holy books.
Think about it - can you come up with another source for both the personal mass violence toward gays and the violent rules of countries that are based on a religion?

I do not see why this is not obvious to everyone. These holy books teach that being gay is sinful, when there is nothing wrong with being gay. Christians are taught to say, "We love the sinner but hate the sin." Well, calling them a sinner is archaic and incorrect, and hateful. Christians will avoid being called discriminatory by saying, "I will not judge, but God will judge them." That sentence is an avoidance technique, and also says that your god has an unfair system at work.

There are calls for mass killings in the Bible, and evangelicals to this day still encourage the killing of homosexuals. Most of you do not know that approximately the same day that the Orlando night club members were attacked a white man had a huge arsenal and was headed for the Pride festival in Los Angeles. Fortunately, he was caught and arrested. I will assume he was not Muslim, as we have had many Christian attacks on homosexuals and other minorities.

I wonder when people will admit that the Abrahamic holy books are dangerous and seriously out of date. Either demand that your books be heavily revised, taking out all prejudice toward homosexuals, women, minorities, children and animals, and all violence (it will leave a thin, but lovely book), or ditch such dangerous books all together, as they are the basis for violent people and violent countries.

Due to our system of religious freedom, people feel they cannot criticize religions, but even though religions help a lot of people, the harm they cause is immense and world-wide. We have to examine and amend religious beliefs and stop ignoring what is clearly written in the books. Criticism is not persecution. You are still free to believe whatever you want, but at least be honest about what is written in your religious books and what is being taught in many of the religious places of worship.

My Choice for President, if I were Republican

Illinois will vote Tuesday, and I thought I would give my opinion of the Republican candidates for those Republicans who are undecided.  I will assume you don’t want to switch parties for this election. 
I have changed my order for whom I would choose to be president if I had to vote Republican.  It used to be Kasich, then Trump, Rubio, Cruz; but Trump cannot focus on issues and instead focuses on polls and popularity.  So now I would recommend Kasich, then Rubio, then Trump, then Cruz.  Yes, I still think Cruz is the worst.  

Cruz wants to get rid of the EPA, the Department of Education, wants to loosen regulations, and wants to make sure every woman or girl who gets pregnant has to pass a volleyball through her vagina, whether she wants to or not, and he has made it harder for women to get contraceptives.  

Do you really know what his policies mean?  This is what he wants to take away from you:
The EPA sets the standards for clean water, clean air, keeps our foods are safe and collects data for every type of environmental hazard in our country.   

The Department of Education awards Pell grants, sees that the states do not break civil rights laws, and monitors inequality in education between low income and wealthy students.  Without the Department of Education, there will be no way to keep schools accountable for the funds they receive, or monitor how programs are working.

Notice the candidates never tell you what “loosen regulations” means?  It could mean allowing companies to pollute as much as they want, for farmers to dump waste wherever they want, for land necessary for species survival to be taken for businesses, for drilling in our national parks, for less monitoring or inspections of food, less labeling of food, less airplane safety, less safe food and drugs, regulations on items such as lead could be cut, and products such as wood could once again slip in items like formaldehyde.  

He’s a climate change denier as well.  He is unwavering and does not care about the consequences to the people, as long as he wins his battle.  

Cruz oversteps religion’s bound in government, using the term “religious liberties” to trump civil rights.  He fights so that only a man and woman can be married to each other, because any other form of love is unchristian and therefore unacceptable under the law, according to him.  Think about that in our secular government!  He fights to have Christian religious monuments and banners in public schools and in other places where it is illegal.  He fights to allow Christians to discriminate.  He claimed the Planned Parenthood murderer was transgender.  That is an absolute lie – Trump is right – Cruz is a bold-faced liar.  Ted Cruz spoke at a rally where gay people were called Satanic.  He only believes the Constitution when is supports his policies.

Lastly, Ted Cruz voted against raising the minimum wage, and his plan will raise taxes on the poor. 
If I were a Republican, switching to a third-party candidate and throwing away my vote would be preferable to voting for Ted Cruz, a very dangerous man for America.

 

Stuck in Hell Together! (Heaven would seem like Hell if everyone were there!)

I think it is funny that each religion thinks they have the right religion, the right beliefs, and the right holy books. They each have their reason to support that theirs is right. My friend, Paul Swanson, noted that all of us are going to Hell. Just as the Christian religion sends others to Hell, other religions, that are all also "the one true way," send Christians to Hell. So all of us are being sent to Hell by another religion! I will see you all in Hell!

Here is a fun thing to think about: The Nation of Islam believes that black people will go to Heaven first, because they were the first people on earth and because blacks suffered the most. But if blacks suffered the most, where shall we then place the Native Americans? Where shall we place the other religions and races that were totally wiped out? White people, I think we will be last in Heaven, according to the Nation of Islam. Oh ya, we are all going to Hell. I forgot.

What I find fascinating is that the Nation of Islam was devised in 1930. This is how quickly a religion can manifest itself in a culture. This is how quickly people can become followers of a religion and devote their lives to a God and belief system. Now, there are some good things about any religion; otherwise no one would follow it. So I am not just picking on this one religion, and saying it is totally bad. It's just my example of the day.

The Nation of Islam quickly developed a huge following, and I am assuming it is because it finally puts blacks on an equal footing, and a little ahead as "the chosen," and it has a hopeful message (mixed in with the bunk) that many people want to hear.

It is just another version of "the chosen people." If you are in a religion other than the traditional protestant Christianity, are you told that your particular religion is "chosen," "the one God wants everyone to be like?" Somehow, I think the answer is yes, if you are still under the umbrella of the Abrahamic religions.

Magical Healing

Have you ever noticed that devout Christians will go into the hospital with a serious illness and will update Facebook from their hospital bed, asking for the prayer chain (you know, “Praying, Prayers being sent, Praying for you!!!” etc.), but will never tell you what is wrong with them?  They keep the malady very vague, so they can come out of the hospital later and claim they were magically healed by the Holy Spirit and all the prayers from friends! 

This recently occurred with a relative of mine.  I knew she was in the hospital because of a heart condition due to an abnormality at birth.  Now, five kids and 300 pounds later, she needed three vials of blood because her red blood cell count was low.  But all she wrote what that the doctors did not know what was wrong with her. 

Another example is Val Kilmer.  He has had a tumor on his neck, and probably had Cancer, but we don’t know that for certain because he simply called it a “concern” and then a “swelling;” although I think he finally admitted it was some kind of tumor, but that it is well now.  Meanwhile he was walking around with a tracheotomy, a breathing aid, and was in and out of the hospital!  He looks better now, and I see no words from him explaining the illness.  That’s Christian Science for you! 

Response to God’s Image – The Difference Maker in Answers In Genesis by David Casas and Dr. Russell Fuller

“We’re such good stewards,” claims a fundamentalist, proudly displaying how she turned a milk carton into a pot for plants. 

I read a Christian article this morning, “God’s Image – The Difference Maker,” about how humans are special, have dominion over animals, how animals can’t reason, how humans are commanded to reproduce, how animals are not spiritual, how humans are told to be “good stewards of the earth,” and how humans are the only spiritual beings because humans talk to each other about God.  It is another “feel good about humans, feed the human ego” article.

I think the fundamentalists really have a point on this one – animals probably do not chat about the Christian god – or Jesus.  Of course, this was another one of those epic length Christian articles, but my paragraph above encompasses all of it, except for the huge emphasis on how we humans are all spiritual. 

The funny thing is, the word spiritual is never defined.  Sometimes, when I see an animal standing still, breathing in the air, or when I see an animal playing, I think it is spiritual.  It is experiencing life or joy.  If spirituality is being thankful, revering life, enjoying life, being present, feeling life and trying to do good, then animals pass the test as often as humans do.  

I consider myself a very spiritual person.  I am truly thankful to be alive, even though there is no one to thank.  I am so grateful for all the beauty in life, and try to notice the good as much as possible.  I pay attention to the feeling of the breeze on my arms, and always look up and enjoy the stars when I walk my dog outside at night.  If I am not considered spiritual by Christians, it is because they have too narrow a view of what is spiritual.  Spiritual is not exclusively their word. 

Do Christians actually think we were put here to have dominion over animals?  Why, then, did so many animals die before humans even came on the scene?  We have the fossils, you know.  I realize the fundamentalists will not accept the fossils, but even thinking about the present, there are so many animals alive right now that humans have never seen.  How do we have dominion over them?  It is absurd that such a command would be given, instead of a command to respect other animals.  The only reason we have to take care of some of them is because we have destroyed their habitats! 

How in this day of information can Christians still believe that animals cannot reason?  We have YouTube!  Have you not seen all the videos and read all the articles that show animals reasoning?  They figure out how to get themselves and friends out of locks; they put themselves in danger in order to save other animals; they figure out mazes; they communicate in groups; they use tools to get what they want; many have a sense of self; they share, they talk, and they love.  I am not sure what “reasoning” higher animals lack!   We know of a dog who understands over 300 words.  Not all dogs can do this - animals have varied personalities and I.Q.s, just as do people.  Some animals grieve when they lose a member of their group or a loved one.  A few wild animals look sad after they have had to kill an animal for food.  They have feelings too!  There is a bonobo who recognizes 3,000 words and can put short sentences together on a computer.  He can gather sticks, light a fire with a match and then roast marshmallows!  How more human-like is that!

It used to be that the difference between an animal and a human was that humans made tools.  But we now have proof that many animals make and use tools.  So they have to move the goal posts and find something else to stall the fact that we are much like our cousin primates!

Animals learn by watching.  Dolphins imitate humans’ poses!  Animals have so many skills that are superior to humans, such as bats coordinating hearing with navigation while flying, dolphins using echolocation, birds and fish using group synchronization, sharks using electric signals from their noses to locate food under the sea floor, and dogs with their superior sense of smell – even a talking bird saying, “Talk clearly” when it was frustrated!  How can anyone try to claim they are reasonless?  Their world is different from ours so why are we judging them by their ability to talk to God?  The reason humans are “chosen” is because they have the ability talk to an imaginary friend?  Pretty funny something unintelligent and unreasonable is what divides us from the animal world, according to Creationists! 

Also included in the article is the statement that humans are commanded to reproduce.  Where does it say that?  In the Abrahamic holy books, written by men.  If this were a command, you would think all women would be able to have children and all men’s sperm would be a’swimmin.  In case these fundamentalists didn’t notice, animals reproduce and don’t need a book to command them to do so!  If a human does not want to reproduce or cannot reproduce, no one should force them to go through something so unnecessary when we certainly are not dying out as a species.  Why can’t fundamentalists look at the big picture – our dying planet – and see that reproducing exponentially is not “intelligent design?”  Thousands of people dying from starvation each year, and they think they must reproduce, and think it is a woman’s duty.  These examples show why holy books can be so dangerous.  They cannot get past the intelligence of 2,000 years ago.

Fundamentalists always make excuses for their “dominion over the animals” command.  They say it means to be a “good stewards of the earth.”  This is how Christians take all the guilt away from themselves--by making proclamations, “I am a good steward of the earth!”  Really?  And you eat meat and dairy which produce methane, excess CO2, destroy rain forests, all our land and you populate which takes away animal habitat?  “I am a good steward” is such an egotistical statement for someone to make.  Even though I recycle, am vegan and don’t travel much, and buy from thrift shops if I purchase at all, I would never call myself a good steward of the earth.  There is much more I could do, like ride my bike or take the bus to work which I do not do.  If you eat meat and dairy, you are not a good steward, you are part of the problem.  That is not a mean statement – it is a fact.  I’m tired of apologizing for something all should recognize at this point.  The arrogance, selfishness and narrow mindedness of fundamentalists continues to amaze me. 

How will Christians respond?  “She’s angry.”  We need to show her how loving Christianity is.  Do you think other humans cannot love?  We have all the emotions a Christian has – we just use reason instead of being fooled by our emotions.  We are all human animals, and realizing our connection is very spiritual!